"I will remain in the same seat by 2027," the Prime Minister remarked, noting that if our interview proceeded smoothly, he might invite the interviewer into Downing Street for another chat next year.
For a PM, there's never truly downtime for leaders. Shortly before our chat started, the PM had been in calls with Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky and trying to decipher what on earth had occurred in Venezuela, where his close ally, US President Donald Trump, had recently launched a strike against and detained its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our lengthy talk, which was considerably lengthier than typical, had ended, Maduro had been indicted in New York.
As the new year begins, the Prime Minister seems to have had a kind of a reboot. Perhaps even just some relaxation with the family at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat.
This seemed to have put him in better spirits than at the difficult tail end of 2025, a terrible year politically for him.
But are he and his supporters being unrealistic if they reckon his fortunes are poised to get better?
The grisly reality for the leader is that a significant number of his colleagues believe he's ineffective at his job. A faction of them would sooner gamble and oust him sooner rather than later.
However Sir Keir was having none of it in the interview on Saturday morning.
Multiple times he insisted he'd be "judged at the general election", insisting nobody would strip his electoral mandate from him – despite the fact that the optimal path of stopping Nigel Farage and Reform UK entering No 10 could be for Labour to switch its leader.
"This is the fight of our times and I intend to be at the forefront," he affirmed.
The challenge for the PM is that he will be judged well ahead of then – in a mega set of elections in May across the UK. He attempted to argue, maybe excessively, that they are about who runs councils, and who runs the devolved administrations in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not about Westminster.
Accurate – in part. But even though he may not want to acknowledge it, No 10 will be judged by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir stating that there were no circumstances under which he would step down, even if a his colleagues contested his leadership for the job, if those elections prove disastrous for Labour.
He tried to account for his unpopularity by saying the voters was reasonably anxious for things to get better. He sought to persuade the interviewer, and the public, that 2026 would be different.
The economic situation would recover despite rising unemployment, he argued, when plans the administration put in place during their first choppy year began to take effect.
His big message is that soon the country will "reach a turning point".
The prime minister may have spoken with greater vigour than I've seen from him for a some time – more relaxed, perhaps, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering pressure from within his own party for a more decisive approach, with increased political direction, more vigour, more pace and more immediacy, his explanations were repeated ones.
Given that he is in considerable political trouble, is a different approach required a change of tack?
No administration, and certainly not one that has been unpopular for many months, has everything its as planned.
Sir Keir's problems are not just because governing is difficult, but because he and his team have faltered, including in the recent past.
The PM admitted that he regretted saying he was "happy" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an backlash when comments he'd previously made – such as calls for Zionists and police to be killed – resurfaced.
Sir Keir attributed it to "procedures" for failing to identify what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying it wasn't his responsibility.
And he is courting obvious political perils as the year gets going. His close relationship with the US president entails a new risk after Trump's strikes on Venezuela.
Having interviewed Sir Keir Starmer, a ex- human rights lawyer who opposed the war in Iraq, over many years, the thought he would be at ease with these events seems implausible.
He stated he was a "career-long proponent of international law" but we "simply haven't got the entire story at the moment".
Some demanded denounce it prior to we spoke. And the government is likely to face increased demands to give an explicit view in Parliament in the near future.
And there has long been simmering desire in the Labour party to revisit some of the results of Brexit.
The PM disputes he's heading in that direction, but his new more concrete commitment to move closer with the EU's single market – the giant economic European trading zone – will probably trigger howls that he is breaking his pledge never to try to overturn the choices that followed Brexit.
A commitment to integrate into more of the single market will delight a faction on his backbenches, but it is easy fodder for Reform and the Conservatives to
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